Puyo Puyo

[puyokid]

I wouldn't go that far, PP7's story is bad, but I while I might personally have issues with the later stories and find the setup with the same 5 characters every time to be repetitive and stale, they are serviceable and have some true strong points, like the Tetris characters or Rafisol, along with their own respective arcs. Special mention goes to the latter, since I wasn't that big on the idea of an anti-Ally character and thus didn't expect to like her, yet she quickly became one of my favorite post-Fever characters, even rivaling T and X, simply because they made her a very compelling and in my opinion, underrated character.

My point is, I'm sure they could do it better, PP7 really isn't indicative of the writing quality of SEGA's Puyo output.

Sorry, maybe I didn't make myself too clear in my last post. When I said that I was a bit turned off by SEGA taking another crack at a dark Puyo game, I didn't mean that PP7 COMPLETELY turned me off from the idea or that SEGA shouldn't take another crack at it. It's just that SEGA REALLY needs to do a bit more research on dark stories (or at the very least, look back at what Yo~n did, and expand/improve on it.)

I'm the complete opposite, I'd hate it if that were the case, because the Fever games were a lot more about Primp at large (with three focus characters of course, but still) and everyone around it, rather then a single main character. Glorifying Amitie like that goes against all of that.

I honestly just don't see why she always needs to be a main character, especially when characters like Raffine or Sig, who have much more to work with, are constantly treated as expendable. I mean Arle wasn't a important character in the Fever duology, since there simply wasn't a place for her to get a bigger role, but did that hurt the narrative? Not at all.

You know what? I'm sure I've said it before, but looking at it now, the fact that SEGA didn't give us enough games during the Fever-era to really delve into what Primp has going on behind-the-scenes really bothers the ever-loving out of me.

Also, I guess with Amitie being referred as this in PP7, it just rubbed me the wrong way even more than if she was referred to as this in the Fever duology, considering how she had practically no reason to be a (major) element in that game's story other than the 'A' Trio concept (Although, I GUESS the same could be said for Arle, too?).

BTW, I'm certainly not saying Amitie HAS to be a "front-and-center" type of main character. Heck, as you've said already, Arle's proven that that's the case not being the main protag of the Fever duology, and Ringo could easily do the same thing (As in, not be a main character for a game and nothing would be taken away).

Basically, with Puyo Puyo's VERY extensive cast, the 'A' Trio could be replaced by the 'S' Trio, or even the 'R' Trio as the main protags of a game, and nothing of consequence would occur.

 

[warelander]

Basically, with Puyo Puyo's VERY extensive cast, the 'A' Trio could be replaced by the 'S' Trio, or even the 'R' Trio as the main protags of a game, and nothing of consequence would occur.

The main thing I just want is for the games to stop having characters in big roles, just because of status quo, I don't need a super deep justification for a character to be around, but I appreciate it when a character doesn't just feel forced into a main role, like I'll defend Ringo in PPT, because her meeting the Tetra crew and forming a strong bond with T is very naturally interwoven in the main plot, where as Arle and Amitie are literally only major players in the plot because they happened to randomly fall out of the sky in the beginning and while it's played for laughs it doesn't make their presence as mains any less forceed.

Also, is it just me or are these very similar to Game Gear Madou 3 in artstyle?
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/168605369675/i-like-these-portraits-that-you-see-when-starting

Wouldn't be to surprising, since Arle no Roux was also a Game Gear game, but I do think that these look a lot nicer, especially with how stylized they are.

Also, this has to be Doppel's most forgotten appearence, though considering that most people are mainly familiar with the SNES remake, where Doppel is the only character to be removed, it's hard to really blame anyone for forgetting.

 

[warelander]

By the by I found this very nice post of yours, which reminded me that I have some personal favorite pieces of fan art myself, that I'd like to see get a bit more noticed, so if you don't mind, could you reblog these?
https://mysigblog.tumblr.com/post/168336223716/mysigblog-source
https://mysigblog.tumblr.com/post/168607618936
https://mysigblog.tumblr.com/post/168584788341

I know you are not a fan of...well that, so I'd understand and respect if you would rather skip over that one, here's some Sigami pieces that you may or may not know of, as a thanks right off the bat :
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/140143882790/httpwwwpixivnetmemberillustphpmode-medium
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/140688845195
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/136694287395/httpwwwpixivnetmemberillustphpmode-medium

As well as a YON Draco in Fever 2/15th Anni.'s style, which I recently found and find really cool :
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=692303

 

[puyokid]

The main thing I just want is for the games to stop having characters in big roles, just because of status quo. I don't need a super deep justification for a character to be around, but I appreciate it when a character doesn't just feel forced into a main role, like I'll defend Ringo in PPT, because her meeting the Tetra crew and forming a strong bond with T is very naturally interwoven in the main plot, where as Arle and Amitie are literally only major players in the plot because they happened to randomly fall out of the sky in the beginning and while it's played for laughs it doesn't make their presence as mains any less forced.

You know, I just finished watching the newest set of English-subbed 20th videos (Well, I still need to finish watching Sig and Klug's cutscenes), and I think Puyo Puyo (SEGA's take on the series, at least) isn't really meant all that meant to have a "singular main character" anymore. It just doesn't feel like they should be doing such a thing anymore.

Like, you know how you told me that the Fever duology felt less like it was about Amitie interacting with her dimension, but more of Amitie AND her dimension at large? I feel like that's what Puyo Puyo should just stick to now. In other words, the 'A' Trio/Quartet would not just be interacting with their dimensions, but it'd be all about them and their worlds at large.

I'm sure some will find this idea unusual, since not even Arle would be "THE" main focus anymore, but that's only because unlike SEGA, Compile seemed to actually make things about her back then.

Also, just wanting to throw my two cents on Ringo (and Tee) in PPT, I'd just like to mention that Ringo's first meeting with them (and all future interactions with from there on out) felt more natural and "human" than her first meetings and interactions with Arle and Amitie in PP7.

Also, is it just me or are these very similar to Game Gear Madou 3 in artstyle?
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/168605369675/i-like-these-portraits-that-you-see-when-starting

Wouldn't be to surprising, since Arle no Roux was also a Game Gear game, but I do think that these look a lot nicer, especially with how stylized they are.

Also, this has to be Doppel's most forgotten appearance, though considering that most people are mainly familiar with the SNES remake, where Doppel is the only character to be removed, it's hard to really blame anyone for forgetting.

Oh, I saw that. Honestly, I think the staff of Madou 3 (GG) WAS working on this game as well. Heck, wasn't Madou 3 (GG) even in development (if not released) at this time?

Also, I have to agree that this certainly is Doppel's most obscure appearance, but then again, that's mostly because the series' Nazo Puyo trilogy was already obscure in and of itself. Heck, most people still can't believe that Demon Servant and Jan's (and I THINK Mandrake's) inclusion in Quest (and SEGA's run of the Puyo series in general) can technically be attributed to the Nazo Puyo games, despite how obscure those games were.

By the by I found this very nice post of yours, which reminded me that I have some personal favorite pieces of fan art myself, that I'd like to see get a bit more noticed, so if you don't mind, could you reblog these?
https://mysigblog.tumblr.com/post/168336223716/mysigblog-source
https://mysigblog.tumblr.com/post/168607618936
https://mysigblog.tumblr.com/post/168584788341

Sure thing, pal! Also, thanks for noticing my post on my favorite Puyo fan artist. I really feel like that person NEEDS to get noticed by SEGA as soon as possible.

I know you are not a fan of...well that, so I'd understand and respect if you would rather skip over that one, here's some Sigami pieces that you may or may not know of, as a thanks right off the bat :
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/140143882790/httpwwwpixivnetmemberillustphpmode-medium
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/140688845195
https://warelander.tumblr.com/post/136694287395/httpwwwpixivnetmemberillustphpmode-medium

Oh, I hope you know that I don't mind that ship. I just prefer Sig and Amitie together more. Anyways, these are some adorable SigAmi pieces!

As well as a YON Draco in Fever 2/15th Anni.'s style, which I recently found and find really cool :
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=692303

Wow, Yo~n Draco looks really good in Fever 2/15th's art!

Say, speaking of that, have you ever found it...odd that 15th didn't back Draco and Witch (and Skeleton-T, by extension)?

 

[warelander]

Also, just wanting to throw my two cents on Ringo (and Tee) in PPT, I'd just like to mention that Ringo's first meeting with them (and all future interactions with from there on out) felt more natural and "human" than her first meetings and interactions with Arle and Amitie in PP7.

In Amitie's case I chalk that up to better writing, as for Arle thought I think it's largely because she and Ringo barely even interact or get any chance to truly get to know each other in 7 and yet suddenly declare themselves best buds by the time 20th comes around.

Oh, I saw that. Honestly, I think the staff of Madou 3 (GG) WAS working on this game as well. Heck, wasn't Madou 3 (GG) even in development (if not released) at this time?

Wouldn't be surprised.

Sure thing, pal! Also, thanks for noticing my post on my favorite Puyo fan artist. I really feel like that person NEEDS to get noticed by SEGA as soon as possible.

Thanks, though I wanna say in regards to your comment on the Arle/Sig one, it's actually a general trend for Dark Arle art to often put much stronger emphasis on the Arle part of the form, which obviously isn't how it works in the games, but that's artistic license for yah. It's kind of the same thing as art that shows Arle and Schezo together in their ARS incernations (which I admit can be very cute), doesn't make sense but yah know, doesn't matter.

I guess I just tend to look at that kind of stuff as it's own thing and not as part of a bigger picture, because to me, doing that would just take away the mood of the artwork, maybe I'm just weird.

Not saying you were trying to do that or anything, it's just something I personally don't like, but that's just me. Maybe I have just become overly sensitive, since that one time I had this anon on the Shigaru blog pester me in PMs over how I can't like ''normal'' ships.

Say, speaking of that, have you ever found it...odd that 15th didn't back Draco and Witch (and Skeleton-T, by extension)?

Not really, you can't exactly bring back everyone at once, I'm more weirded out by the fact that both Compile and SEGA are so stupidly obsessed with Suketoudara.

 

[warelander]

Thanks, though I wanna say in regards to your comment on the Arle/Sig one, it's actually a general trend for Dark Arle art to often put much stronger emphasis on the Arle part of the form, which obviously isn't how it works in the games, but that's artistic license for yah. It's kind of the same thing as art that shows Arle and Schezo together in their ARS incernations (which I admit can be very cute), doesn't make sense but yah know, doesn't matter.

I guess I just tend to look at that kind of stuff as it's own thing and not as part of a bigger picture, because to me, doing that would just take away the mood of the artwork, maybe I'm just weird.

Not saying you were trying to do that or anything, it's just something I personally don't like, but that's just me. Maybe I have just become overly sensitive, since that one time I had this anon on the Shigaru blog pester me in PMs over how I can't like ''normal'' ships.

Wow, looking at this again really reminds me of why I shouldn't do replies when tired and right before going to sleep, because I sound a lot more annoyed then I was, in fact I wasn't annoyed at all, after all your comment was only a fair observation.

Speaking of which I gotta admit, I actually had another one in mind, that I wanted to include on my list, mainly this one:
https://shigaru.tumblr.com/post/150230958855

I wasn't sure whether you would even particulary want one on your blog, so I went with I thought would be the ''lesser offender'', though if you really don't mind could you lend me a hand again?

In exchange I'll reblog my own ''I don't mind it, but simply prefer other options'' pairing, as a thanks for you putting up with my requests.

 

[puyokid]

In Amitie's case, I chalk that up to better writing. As for Arle, thought I think it's largely because she and Ringo barely even interact or get any chance to truly get to know each other in 7 and yet suddenly declare themselves best buds by the time 20th comes around.

Wait, you mean that you think that Ringo's first meeting with Amitie was better writing than her introduction to Arle? For the record, I'm not asking this because I hate your opinion or anything of the sort. I'm just legit curious.

Don't get me wrong, I'm aware that Ringo and Arle's overall relationship has quite a notable number of logic holes in them (which even oozed into 20th, no less), but Ringo and Amitie's introduction felt a bit...incoherent to me (Nowhere near as incoherent as her first meeting with Arle, but still).

Specifically, I feel like Ringo (as much of an Only Sane Person as she can be) got along with Amitie.....a little TOO fast. Like, maybe give her time to get used to her wacky quirks and occasional dim-witted moments so their friendship wouldn't feel...forced(?) for the sake of the 'A' Trio to be a more tight-knit group.

As a matter of fact, while I'm on the subject, I may as well go into how her interaction with Arle could have been handled. That being said, I feel like instead of Arle appearing out of nowhere to inform Ringo of her new ability to pop Puyos and use magic overall, maybe Arle (and the rest of the gang) could have landed in Suzuran MUCH earlier, so that she and Ringo would be WAY more accustomed to each other rather than suddenly be all chummy by the start of PP7.

By extension, maybe instead of Arle accusing Ringo of being possessed by Ecolo in 20th, it could have been the other way around.

Thanks, though I wanna say in regards to your comment on the Arle/Sig one, it's actually a general trend for Dark Arle art to often put much stronger emphasis on the Arle part of the form, which obviously isn't how it works in the games, but that's artistic license for yah. It's kind of the same thing as art that shows Arle and Schezo together in their ARS incarnations (which I admit can be very cute), doesn't make sense but yah know, doesn't matter.

I guess I just tend to look at that kind of stuff as it's own thing and not as part of a bigger picture, because to me, doing that would just take away the mood of the artwork, maybe I'm just weird.

Not saying you were trying to do that or anything, it's just something I personally don't like, but that's just me. Maybe I have just become overly sensitive, since that one time I had this anon on the Shigaru blog pester me in PMs over how I can't like ''normal'' ships.

To be fair, I was really just making a joke about who Dark Arle consist of.

Wow, looking at this again really reminds me of why I shouldn't do replies when tired and right before going to sleep, because I sound a lot more annoyed then I was, in fact I wasn't annoyed at all, after all your comment was only a fair observation.

Speaking of which I gotta admit, I actually had another one in mind, that I wanted to include on my list, mainly this one:
https://shigaru.tumblr.com/post/150230958855

I wasn't sure whether you would even particularly want one on your blog, so I went with I thought would be the ''lesser offender'', though if you really don't mind could you lend me a hand again?

In exchange I'll reblog my own ''I don't mind it, but simply prefer other options'' pairing, as a thanks for you putting up with my requests.

Oh, don't worry. You didn't come off as annoyed to me, actually. As I've said, I was just making a joke, is all.

Also, you don't need to feel self-conscious or anything like that. As I've said before, while I don't necessarily outright ship Arle and Sig (like I would Arle and Schezo (admittedly)/Amitie and Sig/Ringo and Maguro, etc.), it doesn't mean I wouldn't entertain the idea. Heck, just like how you find Amitie and Sig admittedly adorable, I feel the same way about Arle and Sig.

BTW, I wanted to ask you. As you know, I did a "proto-prologue" for my Puyo Puyo/Darkwing Duck fic recently. I wanted to ask you, what would say to a Puyo Puyo/Duck Tales fic? I'm thinking of having the series be centered around Witch and her family, as well as Draco.

 

[warelander]

Wait, you mean that you think that Ringo's first meeting with Amitie was better writing than her introduction to Arle? For the record, I'm not asking this because I hate your opinion or anything of the sort. I'm just legit curious.

That was awkwardly worded on my part, I meant to say that the writing for T's interactions and meeting Ringo is better then it is with her and Amitie.

Specifically, I feel like Ringo (as much of an Only Sane Person as she can be) got along with Amitie.....a little TOO fast. Like, maybe give her time to get used to her wacky quirks and occasional dim-witted moments so their friendship wouldn't feel...forced(?) for the sake of the 'A' Trio to be a more tight-knit group.

That's a general problem, I think the writing for the ''A Trio'' as a trio is very wishy washy, remember what I said about Fever 2 and how Amitie's dim moments were actually played up a lot more, with her pulling stunts like burning Hohow Bird to a crisp or whacking Arle over the head? Well, we know that they haven't done stuff like that since then and not only that, but while Arle still is the most prone to lose her temper, she still doesn't have that sharp a tongue anymore and does Ringo on average even really do or say anything particulary smart, other then her using a more analytical manner of speech?

My point is that I feel like none of the trio's individual characteristics really get played up enough, frankly more often then not I feel like they can really come off as three thirds of what may as well be the same character. They had a better idea of what to do with Ally, since her quirks are a lot more emphasized, with Arle & Co actually reacting to them and having to get used to them.

To be fair, I was really just making a joke about who Dark Arle consist of.

Yeah that's just my tired ramblings, don't mind those.

Oh, don't worry. You didn't come off as annoyed to me, actually. As I've said, I was just making a joke, is all.

Also, you don't need to feel self-conscious or anything like that. As I've said before, while I don't necessarily outright ship Arle and Sig (like I would Arle and Schezo (admittedly)/Amitie and Sig/Ringo and Maguro, etc.), it doesn't mean I wouldn't entertain the idea. Heck, just like how you find Amitie and Sig admittedly adorable, I feel the same way about Arle and Sig.

I understand and thanks for being so cool about all of this, it means a lot to me, really.

BTW, I wanted to ask you. As you know, I did a "proto-prologue" for my Puyo Puyo/Darkwing Duck fic recently. I wanted to ask you, what would say to a Puyo Puyo/Duck Tales fic? I'm thinking of having the series be centered around Witch and her family, as well as Draco.

Sounds like a decent idea, it helps that I have a much more active memory of Duck Tales and the Disney Ducks Comic Universe.

 

[puyokid]

That was awkwardly worded on my part, I meant to say that the writing for T's interactions and meeting Ringo is better then it is with her and Amitie.

Oh, OK.

That's a general problem, I think the writing for the ''A Trio'' as a trio is very wishy-washy, remember what I said about Fever 2 and how Amitie's dim moments were actually played up a lot more, with her pulling stunts like burning Hohow Bird to a crisp or whacking Arle over the head? Well, we know that they haven't done stuff like that since then and not only that, but while Arle still is the most prone to lose her temper, she still doesn't have that sharp a tongue anymore and does Ringo on average even really do or say anything particularly smart, other then her using a more analytical manner of speech?

That's exactly what I mean. These days, Arle seems more likely to lose her temper around Satan and Schezo (Oddly enough, more so the latter than the former) than with ANY other character, even when they SO deserve getting called out by her (i.e. Rulue, Raffine, Feli, Ecolo, etc.). Amitie's dim-wittedness feels somewhat...hollow(?) post-15th, and as you've said, Ringo's intelligence...well, it almost feels like she hasn't really done anything to truly warrant the series' claims that her intellect is supposedly just below that of Risukuma (which is still pretty gosh-darn impressive by this series' standards).

My point is that I feel like none of the trio's individual characteristics really get played up enough, frankly more often than not I feel like they can really come off as three thirds of what may as well be the same character. They had a better idea of what to do with Ally, since her quirks are a lot more emphasized, with Arle & Co actually reacting to them and having to get used to them.

Well, as long as SEGA doesn't play up their unique traits to the point of flanderization, then I'm all for it. Heck, you know what's funny? You know how you stated that the 'A' Trio feels more like three-thirds of what may as well be the exact same character? Well, TV Tropes (hilariously) even states how Amitie and Ringo (and even Ally, to a certain extent) all vaguely seem to be "physical extensions" of Arle's original personality from Compile's run of the series.

Amitie - Gained Arle's curiosity and overall kind-hearted nature, with a touch of ditziness in order to distinguish her from Arle. Heck, the word "hate" practically doesn't even exist in Amitie's vocabulary, and Arle's sharp tongue is all but nonexistent with Amitie.

Ringo - Appears to have gained Arle's curious demeanor no-nonsense attitude from SUN, though Ringo seems less likely to experience any Butt Monkey moments like Arle did. She also seems to have gained some of the sass Arle had back in Minna. All this aside, SEGA seems to state in various material that her IQ is implied to be leaps and bounds ahead of a majority of the cast, something Arle might not be able to attest to so easily.

Ally - The one 'A' member that doesn't really feel like much of an extension of Arle's Compile-run personality. Aside from her sharing Arle's desire for everyone to get along, SEGA seems to done right with her to have her own unique traits be played up the way they were. Of course, it's just too bad that she was mostly overshadowed by the rest of the series' already-established cast in Story Mode (moreso the 'A' Trio, Satan and Ecolo) following their joining the party.

Sounds like a decent idea, it helps that I have a much more active memory of Duck Tales and the Disney Ducks Comic Universe.

Hey, thanks. Honestly, I was thinking of borrowing the OCs JelliPuddi made up for her Madou Monogatari fanfic (i.e. Witch's grandfather, Wizard being Witch's older twin brother, etc.) for this project. It's so weird how both in-canon and out-of-canon, it almost feels like Witch has the extensive family in the franchise, so I figured she would work best for my Puyo Puyo/Duck Tales idea. Say, if you have any suggestions for this, I'd be happy to hear it.

Not really, you can't exactly bring back everyone at once, I'm more weirded out by the fact that both Compile and SEGA are so stupidly obsessed with Suketoudara.

Well, I guess you have a point there, but this IS Draco, Witch, and Skeleton-T we're talking about here. Yet Nasu Grave got in over them? At least Zoh Daimaoh only missed out on Yo~n...

As for Suketoudara, I'm not going to lie...after Puyo Tetris being localized, I think I'm starting to understand the hype surrounding Suketoudara now. To the point that he's been bumped to my top 10 of my favorite Puyo characters (and considering that I love the entire cast already, this is saying quite a lot).

 

[warelander]

Well, as long as SEGA doesn't play up their unique traits to the point of flanderization, then I'm all for it. Heck, you know what's funny? You know how you stated that the 'A' Trio feels more like three-thirds of what may as well be the exact same character? Well, TV Tropes (hilariously) even states how Amitie and Ringo (and even Ally, to a certain extent) all vaguely seem to be "physical extensions" of Arle's original personality from Compile's run of the series.

Amitie - Gained Arle's curiosity and overall kind-hearted nature, with a touch of ditziness in order to distinguish her from Arle. Heck, the word "hate" practically doesn't even exist in Amitie's vocabulary, and Arle's sharp tongue is all but nonexistent with Amitie.

Ringo - Appears to have gained Arle's curious demeanor no-nonsense attitude from SUN, though Ringo seems less likely to experience any Butt Monkey moments like Arle did. She also seems to have gained some of the sass Arle had back in Minna. All this aside, SEGA seems to state in various material that her IQ is implied to be leaps and bounds ahead of a majority of the cast, something Arle might not be able to attest to so easily.

Ally - The one 'A' member that doesn't really feel like much of an extension of Arle's Compile-run personality. Aside from her sharing Arle's desire for everyone to get along, SEGA seems to done right with her to have her own unique traits be played up the way they were. Of course, it's just too bad that she was mostly overshadowed by the rest of the series' already-established cast in Story Mode (moreso the 'A' Trio, Satan and Ecolo) following their joining the party.

To be frank, Amitie and Ringo have pretty much been made to be similar to Arle and the games are not at all subtle about that, but even with that in mind it wouldn't even take that much to make them more distinct from Arle.

Fever 2 already had the right idea of having Amitie as a well meaning idiot who tries to do the right thing, but accidentally ends up causing some trouble herself that she has to deal with and PP7 had Ringo more distinctly as a more ordinary girl, who even snarked over how everyone uses Puyo Battles as the answer to everything, as opposed to her just being another adventure seeking magic girl. Really just do those things with them again and that would be enough.

Hey, thanks. Honestly, I was thinking of borrowing the OCs JelliPuddi made up for her Madou Monogatari fanfic (i.e. Witch's grandfather, Wizard being Witch's older twin brother, etc.) for this project. It's so weird how both in-canon and out-of-canon, it almost feels like Witch has the extensive family in the franchise, so I figured she would work best for my Puyo Puyo/Duck Tales idea. Say, if you have any suggestions for this, I'd be happy to hear it.

I'll see if I get any ideas.

Well, I guess you have a point there, but this IS Draco, Witch, and Skeleton-T we're talking about here. Yet Nasu Grave got in over them? At least Zoh Daimaoh only missed out on Yo~n...

I suppose, I still don't see it as a big deal though, ''bigger'' characters getting the shorter end of the stick is something that can just happen at times.

As for Suketoudara, I'm not going to lie...after Puyo Tetris being localized, I think I'm starting to understand the hype surrounding Suketoudara now. To the point that he's been bumped to my top 10 of my favorite Puyo characters (and considering that I love the entire cast already, this is saying quite a lot).

I'll admit his english voice is ace and I don't even hate Suke or anything, I just don't get why he of all characters is the most prominent Madou Mook in the franchise and on par with the likes of Schezo and Rulue in regards to the amount of appearences they have made.

 

[puyokid]

To be frank, Amitie and Ringo have pretty much been made to be similar to Arle and the games are not at all subtle about that, but even with that in mind it wouldn't even take that much to make them more distinct from Arle.

Fever 2 already had the right idea of having Amitie as a well meaning idiot who tries to do the right thing, but accidentally ends up causing some trouble herself that she has to deal with and PP7 had Ringo more distinctly as a more ordinary girl, who even snarked over how everyone uses Puyo Battles as the answer to everything, as opposed to her just being another adventure seeking magic girl. Really just do those things with them again and that would be enough.

Huh, I guess I've just never taken any real notice of the games themselves showing off that Amitie and Ringo are similar to Arle.

This being said, you're certainly right about how Amitie was handled almost perfectly in Fever 2 with her dimwitted moment being played up without becoming totally irritating to watch. Honestly, I found these moments to be quite (dare I say it) adorable, and even endeared me to Amitie all the more.

As for Ringo, I really wish SEGA continued with Ringo's characterization of being played up as this totally ordinary junior high-aged schoolgirl with little to no magic abilities, who made up for such things with her sarcastic wit. From what I'm seeing, it feels like SEGA's localization team is was aware of Ringo's personality in PP7, bringing back this aspect of hers in PPT's localization.

I should mention that these things are what result in Amitie and Ringo being in my top 10 of favorite Puyo/Madou characters.

I suppose, I still don't see it as a big deal though, ''bigger'' characters getting the shorter end of the stick is something that can just happen at times.

Yeah, you have a point. Besides, this series has more than enough characters to testify to such a thing...

I'll admit his English voice is ace and I don't even hate Suket or anything, I just don't get why he of all characters is the most prominent Madou Mook in the franchise and on par with the likes of Schezo and Rulue in regards to the amount of appearances they have made.

Honestly, I think Suketoudara's role as the series' Big Fun might just be the source of his popularity. Maybe his "hype" personality and party animal portrayal is what contributes to his popularity? At least, that's what I think. Heck, I'm pretty sure that ever since PP7/20th, Suketoudara has pretty much become almost as much of a mascot to the series as Carbuncle is to it ever since SEGA took the reigns.

 

[warelander]

Huh, I guess I've just never taken any real notice of the games themselves showing off that Amitie and Ringo are similar to Arle.

As you know, I gave Amitie a fair bit of flak for being too close to Arle in several regards, I mean it took until 20th for her to get a single unique spell to herself and even then it's only that one, everything else is still variations of Arle spells or in the case of Bayoeen, straight up stolen. It's especially damning, because the spell theme for a character always relates to a part of their well. character in some fashion, so Amitie having a almost entirely (at one point completely) cloned spellset makes the ''Bootleg Arle'' jokes directed at her far less of a joke.

In Ringo's case it's noticable how closely she follows the ''A Girl'' template, where as Maguro and Risukuma have pretty much nothing in common with the other ''R and S'' characters, not to mention her somehow possesing some degree of magic capabilities, despite that being a foreign concept in her world, from what we can tell and then there's how PP7 stuffs all three ''A Girls'' into the same outfit, with no variation, just to make them seem even more like clones of each other.

Honestly, I think Suketoudara's role as the series' Big Fun might just be the source of his popularity. Maybe his "hype" personality and party animal portrayal is what contributes to his popularity? At least, that's what I think. Heck, I'm pretty sure that ever since PP7/20th, Suketoudara has pretty much become almost as much of a mascot to the series as Carbuncle is to it ever since SEGA took the reigns.

Is Suke terribly popular though? I have heard the argument of him being popular in Japan, but I have seen practically nothing that suggests that, especially in comparison to characters like Sig. Schezo, Witch, Draco, Klug, Doppelganger Arle, Lemres or Strange Klug among others.

Not that it matters that much, again I don't hate him, I just don't get it personally.

Also, you mentioned this top 10 of you favorite characters a fair bit, care to tell me the whole thing? In exchange I could tell you mine, not that it would be very surprising, since I feel like I make my favorites very obvious, but ya know, maybe you are curious.

 

[puyokid]

As you know, I gave Amitie a fair bit of flak for being too close to Arle in several regards. I mean, it took until 20th for her to get a single unique spell to herself and even then it's only that one, everything else is still variations of Arle spells or in the case of Bayoeen, straight up stolen. It's especially damning, because the spell theme for a character always relates to a part of their well. character in some fashion, so Amitie having a almost entirely (at one point completely) cloned spellset makes the ''Bootleg Arle'' jokes directed at her far less of a joke.

Once again, this is something I admittedly dislike SEGA for doing. I get that Amitie was supposed to replace Arle as the series' main protag in the long run, but they really couldn't have been bothered to give her a completely NEW spellset by, let's say...PP7 (where Arle more or less became a major player in the series again)?

Speaking of which...I don't know if you remember, but a while back I made up my own spellset for Amitie. I don't think you ever really responded to it. I'm not bothered by this or anything, but I was sort of hoping you would. I can post it here again, if you want.

In Ringo's case, it's noticeable how closely she follows the ''A Girl'' template, where as Maguro and Risukuma have pretty much nothing in common with the other ''R and S'' characters, not to mention her somehow possessing some degree of magic capabilities, despite that being a foreign concept in her world, from what we can tell and then there's how PP7 stuffs all three ''A Girls'' into the same outfit, with no variation, just to make them seem even more like clones of each other.

As much as I love Ringo (even more now after seeing her in PPT's English localization), it really feels weird (and a bit forced) to me how she suddenly became almost as much of a Magical Girl as Arle and Amitie. Not to mention that she shares a number of traits with the two (Adventurous, Puyo-loving, etc.).

The fact that she can even use magic at all really throws me for a loop consdiering how Ringo's practically nothing more than your typical pre-teen/teenage schoolgirl. BTW, I'd like to point out that various moments in the series have strongly implied that Risukuma and Maguro do NOT use magic to fight. If anything, it's usually inferred that they appear to be in a situation similar to that of Rulue where the Puyos simply power up their explosive beakers and kendama attacks respectively, allowing them to keep up with the likes of the 'A' Trio, Satan, Schezo, etc.

Heck, her dimension is essentially OUR world (with a couple of differences here and there), so magic (on the level of Arle and Amitie's worlds) is practically non-existent. Also, the fact that all 3 'A' girls are stuffed into Suzuran Junior High's school uniforms was a design choice I can't say I was all that fond of. I mean, there's not even a narrative reason as to why Arle, Amitie, and the rest of Primp Magic Academy's students were dressed like that all of a sudden.

Is Suke terribly popular though? I have heard the argument of him being popular in Japan, but I have seen practically nothing that suggests that, especially in comparison to characters like Sig, Schezo, Witch, Draco, Klug, Doppelganger Arle, Lemres or Strange Klug among others.

Not that it matters that much, again I don't hate him, I just don't get it personally.

Now that's something even I'm totally clueless on. Like I've said in my last post, I've always attributed Suketoudara's popularity to his "hype-as-heck" party animal portrayal and whatnot, but I could be wrong.

Also, you mentioned this top 10 of you favorite characters a fair bit, care to tell me the whole thing? In exchange I could tell you mine, not that it would be very surprising, since I feel like I make my favorites very obvious, but ya know, maybe you are curious.

Eh, why not? I should mention right now that PPT's English localization has assisted in creating my top 10. That being said, here they are (in no particular order):

1. Arle
2. Schezo
3. Satan
4. Suketoudara
5. Amitie
6. Lemres
7. Ringo
8. Risukuma
9. Maguro
10. Ecolo

BTW, the bottom list consist of characters that I REALLY enjoy (just not to the level of the 10 listed above). (Characters in bold are ones like just slightly more than others):

Carbuncle
Rulue
Lagnus
Draco
Witch
Doppelganger Arle
Raffine
Sig
Klug
Rider
Tarutaru
Ms. Accord
Strange Klug
Feli
Yu
Rei
Ocean Prince/Prince Salde
Otomo
Ally
Rafisol
Succubus
Incubus
Kikimora
Panotty
Archan
Minotauros
Seriri
Harpy
Jan
Choppun
Tee
O
Ess
Jay and Elle
Ai
Zed
Ex

If I could see your list, I'd like that. As you can see, you can have "honorable mentions" of your own if you want.

 

[warelander]

Speaking of which...I don't know if you remember, but a while back I made up my own spellset for Amitie. I don't think you ever really responded to it. I'm not bothered by this or anything, but I was sort of hoping you would. I can post it here again, if you want.

If you did then I might have accidentally overlooked it, just post it again.

The fact that she can even use magic at all really throws me for a loop consdiering how Ringo's practically nothing more than your typical pre-teen/teenage schoolgirl. BTW, I'd like to point out that various moments in the series have strongly implied that Risukuma and Maguro do NOT use magic to fight. If anything, it's usually inferred that they appear to be in a situation similar to that of Rulue where the Puyos simply power up their explosive beakers and kendama attacks respectively, allowing them to keep up with the likes of the 'A' Trio, Satan, Schezo, etc.

You could make the argument that perhaps in Ringo's world magic users do exist, but just aren't as common, it's not impossible, considerng that we literally only three people who live in that world, it's just that nothing in the game suggests such a thing, which is why Ringo sticks out like a sore thumb.

Eh, why not? I should mention right now that PPT's English localization has assisted in creating my top 10. That being said, here they are (in no particular order):

1. Arle
2. Schezo
3. Satan
4. Suketoudara
5. Amitie
6. Lemres
7. Ringo
8. Risukuma
9. Maguro
10. Ecolo

BTW, the bottom list consist of characters that I REALLY enjoy (just not to the level of the 10 listed above). (Characters in bold are ones like just slightly more than others):

Carbuncle
Rulue
Lagnus
Draco
Witch
Doppelganger Arle
Raffine
Sig
Klug
Rider
Tarutaru
Ms. Accord
Strange Klug
Feli
Yu
Rei
Ocean Prince/Prince Salde
Otomo
Ally
Rafisol
Succubus
Incubus
Kikimora
Panotty
Archan
Minotauros
Seriri
Harpy
Jan
Choppun
Tee
O
Ess
Jay and Elle
Ai
Zed
Ex

If I could see your list, I'd like that. As you can see, you can have "honorable mentions" of your own if you want.

Interesting, Lemres was one that I didn't expect, certainly a good choice though, as for my top 10 :

Spoiler: 10

10) T(ee)

Starting off we have T, what I like about him is how his take on the ''only sane man'' trope is presented, because unlike Arle or Ringo he has to be the leader of an entire crew of more eccentric personalities and seeing him play off of them is very enjoyable and the final battle in story mode with him, when he attempts to take X's place to free him of his loneliness makes for a surprisingly powerful moment, when Ringo has to practically beat the idea out of him.

Speaking of Ringo, his relationship with her is of course also a big factor, since he much like her in PP7, very much starts out as a outsider to the wackyness of the Puyo world it's really not hard to see why the two bonded, also the way their relationship develops is just about everything I ever wanted to see with Arle and Sig after 15th and never got (and won't ever get). so I'll happily take it.

Spoiler: 9

9) Oshare Bones

Honestly, this one-skeleton fashion police may as well be the poster child of what I like about the continuity between Fever 2 and 15th. Much like almost everyone else who made their debut in Fever 1 he started out rather flat, but developed considerably in Fever 2, where the Memory of Chu subplot and him getting rid of it because he feels like he doesn't deserve it anymore gives us first hints of his backstory. 15th continues this by telling us about him having this lost lover and gives context to the subplot of the previous game.

As we know thanks to all of that, underneath the silly surface level appearence Oshare is actually a pretty multy layered person, generally friendly, if very stern when it comes to fashion, still looking back on his life, sometimes happily and sometimes reluctantly and yearning for nothing more then to meet his loved one again.

Certainly a very intruiguing character and one who deserved better then to just disappear from the non-Quest games.

Spoiler: 8

8) Lagnus

Probably a very expected choice, but yeah gotta love Lagnus. He is very much a parody of old school RPG protagonists and it shows, not just with the concept of his curse or leveling up, to the point where Chronicle actually has him go on a massive off screen grinding session, but also his butt-monkey status, despite being a genuine good guy....even if it's not a good idea to question his capabilities as a hero.

Beyond that he also makes a great foil for Schezo and even outside of his missfortunes also has general likability on his side, he might have some quirks, but he's a good guy and lovable for it.

Spoiler: 7

7) Ocean Prince/Prince Salde

One of those ''lovable brat'' types of characters, a young prince who wants nothing to do with his duties, but isn't afraid to flaunt his status as royalty, which can very well get him into trouble, like in 15th, when he asks Rulue to become his maidservant and predictably brings her wrath upon himself. That's one of the fun running themes of his character, getting into trouble and having to weasel himself out of it again, someway, somehow.

His relatioship with Sig of course also get's a major plus from me and his english voice plays up the stuck up royalty part to hillarious degrees

Spoiler: 6

6) Rafisol

Not sure if this was a predictable pick or not, but I really do like Rafisol that much. She's one of the few Puyo characters who's played pretty straight, both as a villain and once she turns around. A being of dark magic, who wanted to continue to exist even after her defeat and did manage to turn around and learn of concepts such as friendship, but when realizing what she is began to loath her herself and question why anyone would want to be around her.

Her story so far does end with her realizing that she can't bring herself to just run off and that she does hope to accept herself and that she too deserves to be loved someday, but even if this is where it ends and she never comes back she would still be one of the more fleshed out characters in the series, especially with the sheer amount of development she already recieved.

Also, here's the sauce for the pic, had to use fan art since she is still not in Quest.

Spoiler: 5

5) Doppelganger Arle

Yeah, let's not kid ourselves this was a very obvious one. Even more so then Rafisol, Doppel is a character and villain who is very much played straight. She's made apparences before, but I think we can both agree that YON really made the character and it's not even just the more serious tone of the game, but also how outright somber the atmosphere surrounding her appearence is, which makes you wonder a number of things about Doppel, especially because of how unclear her motivation and ultimate goal beyond ''replace Arle'' are.

A lot about her is implied, but never followed up on, thanks to a lack of new story relevant appearences and as you know I'm very much in favor of a more sympathetic and redeemable Doppel, but regardless what happens with her in the future (if anything at all) she is certainly someone truly special among the Puyo cast.

Spoiler: 4

4) Strange Klug

Favorite villain right here. Strange Klug is a very interesting case, where he certainly is a far more serious villain in terms of stakes, but nobody knows who he is, so literally nobody ever realizes the stakes at hand when he's actually around, which is really funny.

The backstory aspect of course plays the biggest part here, since the story behind the demon is easily the most crucial piece of world building within the Fever world, to the point where the demon even when he doesn't appear as Strange Klug, still is made note of, good examples being 20th and PPT. Also, his backstory and connection to Sig make the bug lover inherently more relevant and important, which is never a bad thing in my book.

Also, Surge of the Crimson Scream is my favorite Puyo/Madou song, pretty much ever.

Spoiler: 3

3) Arle

All things considered Arle is probably one of the more ''plain'' characters, since she is meant to be the normal one of the bunch. Not saying that's a bad thing though, since she is very much a lovable and criminally adorable girl, who is a ton of fun to have around, thanks to her more savage moments, adventerous spirit and occasional (but more frequent then for most characters) moments of having to play the butt-monkey, either because of other's antics or due to karma coming back to bite her, when she takes the savage part too far.

Spoiler: 2

2) Schezo

Schezo's escapades of trying to present himself as dignified and reserved, only to have that image crumble down in seconds are probably among the most humerous in the series. With that said I actually happen to enjoy moments where Schezo get's to be the straight man even more, particulary in 20th where he just wants some peace and quiet and the cave he made his home, only to have others annoy him with their antics.

On top of that he's one of the few characters who's backstory we got to see for ourselves, made for an outright sinister villain in Madou 2 and has shown himself to be ungodly adorkable on numerous occassions, whether it be his love for cute things or him actually letting loose for once in Puyo Puyo DA!.

Bottom line: Schezo's awesome, no ifs or buts about it.

Spoiler: 1

1) Sig

Yeah, anyone else taking this spot would have been the real shock.

Not really sure what I should say here that I haven't said before, I just love this spacey derp, he has a good amount of hidden depths, his laid back and spacey, but ultimately friendly attitude make him likable beyond belief, he has a backstory, that explains his demon nature, said nature continues to be explored to this day, his spaceyness and love for bugs have made for more then a few amusing moments, I love the way he interacts with other characters and you can bet that he is always the one I pay the most attention to, whenever he is around.

On top of what happens in the games he's also the one I have the most headcanons for, as well as the one who most of my fics revolve around and while I ''only'' actively ship him with Arle (especially her), Doppel, Rafisol, Raffine and Jan, you can get my interest pretty quickly by just showing him with any girl of choice, I can't even quite explain what it is about him that makes me enjoy to ship him around that much, it's just how it is.

As much as I like all characters in the series Sig stands out above them all as my favorite, as you probably guessed from the start.

A Top 10 of honorable mentions would be:

1) Raffine
2) X
3) Jan
4) Witch
5) Lemres
6) Klug
7) Draco
8) Ms. Accord
9) J & L
10) Rulue

Well that one was quite a doozy, but also a lot of fun to write, now I'm just curious how many of my choices you already saw coming.

 

[Glowsquid]

Figured you guys might get a kick out of this: A slide from today's Nintendo financial briefing hints Puyo Puyo Tetris sold well in NA

According to nintendo's list of the best-selling Switch titles of 2017 released today, Puyo Puyo Tetris is the 18th best selling Switch game in 'Murica. Rebirth of the puyos in the west incoming?

 

[warelander]

According to nintendo's list of the best-selling Switch titles of 2017 released today, Puyo Puyo Tetris is the 18th best selling Switch game in 'Murica. Rebirth of the puyos in the west incoming?

Ah yeah, I think it's this one?

Certainly very encouraging, really makes me wonder how well it did on the PS4, though I'd imagine it did better on the Switch, never did I think that it would make it into any top lists though, that's kind of incredible.

 

[puyokid]

If you did, then I might have accidentally overlooked it, just post it again.

Oh, OK. I should mention that I came up with this on my own...

I based these on Amitie's upbeat nature: "Cheerful!", "Delightful!" "Ecstatic!", "Elation!", "Joy!", "Jubilation!", "Thrilling!" "Upbeat!"

I also came up with a party-based spell theme for her as well: "Party-time!", "Celebration!", "Soiree!", "Shindig!", "Amusement!"," Bash!", "Blowout!", "Carnival!", "Festival!"

You could make the argument that perhaps in Ringo's world magic users do exist, but just aren't as common, it's not impossible, considering that we literally only three people who live in that world, it's just that nothing in the game suggests such a thing, which is why Ringo sticks out like a sore thumb.

I guess so, but if that's the case then shouldn't SEGA be pointing that out by now rather than just let us believe that her dimension is essentially our world?

Interesting, Lemres was one that I didn't expect, certainly a good choice though, as for my top 10 :

Spoiler: 10

10) T(ee)

Starting off we have T, what I like about him is how his take on the ''only sane man'' trope is presented, because unlike Arle or Ringo he has to be the leader of an entire crew of more eccentric personalities and seeing him play off of them is very enjoyable and the final battle in story mode with him, when he attempts to take X's place to free him of his loneliness makes for a surprisingly powerful moment, when Ringo has to practically beat the idea out of him.

Speaking of Ringo, his relationship with her is of course also a big factor, since he much like her in PP7, very much starts out as a outsider to the wackiness of the Puyo world it's really not hard to see why the two bonded, also the way their relationship develops is just about everything I ever wanted to see with Arle and Sig after 15th and never got (and won't ever get). so I'll happily take it.

Spoiler: 9

9) Oshare Bones

Honestly, this one-skeleton fashion police may as well be the poster child of what I like about the continuity between Fever 2 and 15th. Much like almost everyone else who made their debut in Fever 1 he started out rather flat, but developed considerably in Fever 2, where the Memory of Chu subplot and him getting rid of it because he feels like he doesn't deserve it anymore gives us first hints of his backstory. 15th continues this by telling us about him having this lost lover and gives context to the subplot of the previous game.

As we know thanks to all of that, underneath the silly surface level appearance Oshare is actually a pretty multi-layered person, generally friendly, if very stern when it comes to fashion, still looking back on his life, sometimes happily and sometimes reluctantly and yearning for nothing more then to meet his loved one again.

Certainly a very intriguing character and one who deserved better then to just disappear from the non-Quest games.

Spoiler: 8

8) Lagnus

Probably a very expected choice, but yeah gotta love Lagnus. He is very much a parody of old school RPG protagonists and it shows, not just with the concept of his curse or leveling up, to the point where Chronicle actually has him go on a massive off screen grinding session, but also his butt-monkey status, despite being a genuine good guy....even if it's not a good idea to question his capabilities as a hero.

Beyond that he also makes a great foil for Schezo and even outside of his misfortunes also has general likability on his side, he might have some quirks, but he's a good guy and lovable for it.

Spoiler: 7

7) Ocean Prince/Prince Salde

One of those ''lovable brat'' types of characters, a young prince who wants nothing to do with his duties, but isn't afraid to flaunt his status as royalty, which can very well get him into trouble, like in 15th, when he asks Rulue to become his maidservant and predictably brings her wrath upon himself. That's one of the fun running themes of his character, getting into trouble and having to weasel himself out of it again, someway, somehow.

His relationship with Sig of course also get's a major plus from me and his English voice plays up the stuck up royalty part to hilarious degrees

Spoiler: 6

6) Rafisol

Not sure if this was a predictable pick or not, but I really do like Rafisol that much. She's one of the few Puyo characters who's played pretty straight, both as a villain and once she turns around. A being of dark magic, who wanted to continue to exist even after her defeat and did manage to turn around and learn of concepts such as friendship, but when realizing what she is began to loath her herself and question why anyone would want to be around her.

Her story so far does end with her realizing that she can't bring herself to just run off and that she does hope to accept herself and that she too deserves to be loved someday, but even if this is where it ends and she never comes back she would still be one of the more fleshed out characters in the series, especially with the sheer amount of development she already received.

Also, here's the sauce for the pic, had to use fan art since she is still not in Quest.

Spoiler: 5

5) Doppelganger Arle

Yeah, let's not kid ourselves this was a very obvious one. Even more so then Rafisol, Doppel is a character and villain who is very much played straight. She's made appearances before, but I think we can both agree that YON really made the character and it's not even just the more serious tone of the game, but also how outright somber the atmosphere surrounding her appearance is, which makes you wonder a number of things about Doppel, especially because of how unclear her motivation and ultimate goal beyond ''replace Arle'' are.

A lot about her is implied, but never followed up on, thanks to a lack of new story relevant appearances and as you know I'm very much in favor of a more sympathetic and redeemable Doppel, but regardless what happens with her in the future (if anything at all) she is certainly someone truly special among the Puyo cast.

Spoiler: 4

4) Strange Klug

Favorite villain right here. Strange Klug is a very interesting case, where he certainly is a far more serious villain in terms of stakes, but nobody knows who he is, so literally nobody ever realizes the stakes at hand when he's actually around, which is really funny.

The backstory aspect of course plays the biggest part here, since the story behind the demon is easily the most crucial piece of world building within the Fever world, to the point where the demon even when he doesn't appear as Strange Klug, still is made note of, good examples being 20th and PPT. Also, his backstory and connection to Sig make the bug lover inherently more relevant and important, which is never a bad thing in my book.

Also, Surge of the Crimson Scream is my favorite Puyo/Madou song, pretty much ever.

Spoiler: 3

3) Arle

All things considered Arle is probably one of the more ''plain'' characters, since she is meant to be the normal one of the bunch. Not saying that's a bad thing though, since she is very much a lovable and criminally adorable girl, who is a ton of fun to have around, thanks to her more savage moments, adventurous spirit and occasional (but more frequent then for most characters) moments of having to play the butt-monkey, either because of other's antics or due to karma coming back to bite her, when she takes the savage part too far.

Spoiler: 2

2) Schezo

Schezo's escapades of trying to present himself as dignified and reserved, only to have that image crumble down in seconds are probably among the most humorous in the series. With that said I actually happen to enjoy moments where Schezo get's to be the straight man even more, particularly in 20th where he just wants some peace and quiet and the cave he made his home, only to have others annoy him with their antics.

On top of that he's one of the few characters who's backstory we got to see for ourselves, made for an outright sinister villain in Madou 2 and has shown himself to be ungodly adorkable on numerous occasions, whether it be his love for cute things or him actually letting loose for once in Puyo Puyo DA!.

Bottom line: Schezo's awesome, no ifs or buts about it.

Spoiler: 1

1) Sig

Yeah, anyone else taking this spot would have been the real shock.

Not really sure what I should say here that I haven't said before, I just love this spacey derp, he has a good amount of hidden depths, his laid back and spacey, but ultimately friendly attitude make him likable beyond belief, he has a backstory, that explains his demon nature, said nature continues to be explored to this day, his spaciness and love for bugs have made for more then a few amusing moments, I love the way he interacts with other characters and you can bet that he is always the one I pay the most attention to, whenever he is around.

On top of what happens in the games he's also the one I have the most headcanons for, as well as the one who most of my fics revolve around and while I ''only'' actively ship him with Arle (especially her), Doppel, Rafisol, Raffine and Jan, you can get my interest pretty quickly by just showing him with any girl of choice, I can't even quite explain what it is about him that makes me enjoy to ship him around that much, it's just how it is.

As much as I like all characters in the series Sig stands out above them all as my favorite, as you probably guessed from the start.

A Top 10 of honorable mentions would be:

1) Raffine
2) X
3) Jan
4) Witch
5) Lemres
6) Klug
7) Draco
8) Ms. Accord
9) J & L
10) Rulue

Well that one was quite a doozy, but also a lot of fun to write, now I'm just curious how many of my choices you already saw coming.

Honestly, I think the only ones I didn't expect Oshare, Lagnus, and Ocean Prince/Prince Salde.

BTW, I forgot to put Lagnus in bold as one of the characters I prefer over my other honorable mentions. If you check my post, you'll see it's been edited.

Also, I'd like to ask you 2 things.

1. Who would you want in a 50-character roster? I know, it's sudden, but I'm curious.

2. What would you do with Amitie's spelltheme to make her less of a "Bootleg Arle"?

According to nintendo's list of the best-selling Switch titles of 2017 released today, Puyo Puyo Tetris is the 18th best selling Switch game in 'Murica. Rebirth of the puyos in the west incoming?

Ah yeah, I think it's this one?

Certainly very encouraging, really makes me wonder how well it did on the PS4, though I'd imagine it did better on the Switch, never did I think that it would make it into any top lists though, that's kind of incredible.

Holy crud! I didn't think PPT would even be THAT high on the list. I know that sounds negative, but Puyo Puyo with the actual characters and settings intact hasn't exactly sold all that well in the past. So to see this REALLY puts a smile on my face.

 

[warelander]

Oh, OK. I should mention that I came up with this on my own...

I based these on Amitie's upbeat nature: "Cheerful!", "Delightful!" "Ecstatic!", "Elation!", "Joy!", "Jubilation!", "Thrilling!" "Upbeat!"

I also came up with a party-based spell theme for her as well: "Party-time!", "Celebration!", "Soiree!", "Shindig!", "Amusement!"," Bash!", "Blowout!", "Carnival!", "Festival!"

2. What would you do with Amitie's spelltheme to make her less of a "Bootleg Arle"?

I'd say the first of your spell sets would be the most ideal one, fits her to a T (no, not that one).

I guess so, but if that's the case then shouldn't SEGA be pointing that out by now rather than just let us believe that her dimension is essentially our world?

I mean, this is really just me spitballing ideas to fanwank this inconsistency, I doubt an idea like this ever crossed SEGA's mind.

1. Who would you want in a 50-character roster? I know, it's sudden, but I'm curious.

Heh, don't worry, it's not like I haven't thought of that before myself, in fact I already have a roster collage ready to go :

Spoiler

That covers it pretty well, I was torn between Vampire and Succubus, but gave the former the upper hand and with the Puyo Wars trio being there I also thought of adding Marvett as a sole Quest representative, but she didn't quite make it. Also, the even ratio between Compile and SEGA characters is entirely intentional.

How bout' you?

 

[puyokid]

I'd say the first of your spell sets would be the most ideal one, fits her to a T (no, not that one).

You're funny, you know that? BTW, I'm curious. The party-themed spellset I came up with...do you think anyone in the series could use it, or a totally new character could use it? It's just that I feel a little bad letting it go to waste.

I mean, this is really just me spitballing ideas to fanwank this inconsistency, I doubt an idea like this ever crossed SEGA's mind.

You might be right...

Heh, don't worry, it's not like I haven't thought of that before myself, in fact I already have a roster collage ready to go :

Spoiler

That covers it pretty well, I was torn between Vampire and Succubus, but gave the former the upper hand and with the Puyo Wars trio being there I also thought of adding Marvett as a sole Quest representative, but she didn't quite make it. Also, the even ratio between Compile and SEGA characters is entirely intentional.

I'm going to be copy-and-pasting my last list, so please bear with me on it, OK? My new additions will be in bold.

1. Arle (and Carbuncle) (Dark Arle is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
2. Rulue
3. Schezo (Doppelganger Schezo shares a slot with him, but is considered a completely separate character)
4. Satan (Yellow Satan is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
5. Suketoudara
6. Draco (SUNburned Draco is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
7. Witch (Dark Witch shares a slot with her, but is considered a completely separate character)
8. Minotauros
9. Lagnus
10. Seriri
11. Harpy
12. Kikimora (Black Kikimora shares a slot with her, but is considered a completely separate character.)
13. Doppelganger Arle (Pierrot is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
14. Chico (and Dragon)
15. Panotty
16. Archan
17. Choppun
18. Incubus
19. Succubus
20. Skeleton-T
21. Nohoho (Muhoho shares a slot with him, but is considered a separate character)
22. Banshee Trio
23. Zoh Daimaoh
24. Momomo
25. Scylla
26. Honey Bee
27. Kodomo Dragon
28. Demon Servant
29. Jan
30. Amitie (Red Amitie is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
31. Raffine
32. Sig (Black Sig is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
33. Klug (Strange Klug shares a slot with him, but is considered a separate character)
34. Rider
35. Tarutaru
36. Ms. Accord (and Popoi)
37. Lemres
38. Feli (White Feli is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
39. Yu and Rei
40. Ocean Prince (Prince Salde is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
41. Otomo
42. Oshare Bones
43. Akuma
44. Gogotte
45. Ringo
46. Risukuma
47. Maguro
48. Ecolo (Unusual Ecolo is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
49. Ally
50. Rafisol

So...what do you think? This time around, I felt like I'm really close as I wanted to add the likes of Onion Pixy (with Onionette/Oniko as his "Carbuncle" so to speak), Dongurigaeru, and Baldanders.

 

[warelander]

BTW, I'm curious. The party-themed spellset I came up with...do you think anyone in the series could use it, or a totally new character could use it? It's just that I feel a little bad letting it go to waste.

It's better reserved for a new character, there's really no point to changing anyone else's spell set, Amitie is very much a special case in that regard.

I'm going to be copy-and-pasting my last list, so please bear with me on it, OK? My new additions will be in bold.

1. Arle (and Carbuncle) (Dark Arle is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
2. Rulue
3. Schezo (Doppelganger Schezo shares a slot with him, but is considered a completely separate character)
4. Satan (Yellow Satan is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
5. Suketoudara
6. Draco (SUNburned Draco is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
7. Witch (Dark Witch shares a slot with her, but is considered a completely separate character)
8. Minotauros
9. Lagnus
10. Seriri
11. Harpy
12. Kikimora (Black Kikimora shares a slot with her, but is considered a completely separate character.)
13. Doppelganger Arle (Pierrot is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
14. Chico (and Dragon)
15. Panotty
16. Archan
17. Choppun
18. Incubus
19. Succubus
20. Skeleton-T
21. Nohoho (Muhoho shares a slot with him, but is considered a separate character)
22. Banshee Trio
23. Zoh Daimaoh
24. Momomo
25. Scylla
26. Honey Bee
27. Kodomo Dragon
28. Demon Servant
29. Jan
30. Amitie (Red Amitie is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
31. Raffine
32. Sig (Black Sig is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
33. Klug (Strange Klug shares a slot with him, but is considered a separate character)
34. Rider
35. Tarutaru
36. Ms. Accord (and Popoi)
37. Lemres
38. Feli (White Feli is a cosmetic reward for her to wear)
39. Yu and Rei
40. Ocean Prince (Prince Salde is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
41. Otomo
42. Oshare Bones
43. Akuma
44. Gogotte
45. Ringo
46. Risukuma
47. Maguro
48. Ecolo (Unusual Ecolo is a cosmetic reward for him to wear)
49. Ally
50. Rafisol

So...what do you think? This time around, I felt like I'm really close as I wanted to add the likes of Onion Pixy (with Onionette/Oniko as his "Carbuncle" so to speak), Dongurigaeru, and Baldanders.

Scylla is choice that I did't see coming, also Momomo was someone I had on my mind, but didn't quite get to include. As a whole fine list, not how I'd do it, but that's entirely a matter of personal preference.

Also, just for the lulz I made a 50 chara roster of just my favorites :

Spoiler

Kinda interesting to see how that would vary from a ''normal'' roster, I kept Madou and Puyo Wars out of it, for the sake of simplicity, Quest too for the most part, but I made one exception for Marvett, since she already missed out on the previous one.