Fixing Wario Part 2: Stages & Music

[Scyhh]

Gamer is a boring stage. The only thing it has going for it is it's main gimmick but it's still boring. This doesn't mean that we should completely remove ware's existence from smash. But land should be more prominent. Keep the Warioware stage but have a second stage about Wario Land. I have three stage ideas.

S.S. Teacup From Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3

Wario's Castle (Based off of the Wario World version)

Greenhorn Forest from Wario World

Music:

Wario has some good music not featured in smash but i don't want to add too many songs so i narrowed it down to a list of og tracks and remixes for smash

Originals:

Water Stage
Down In The Cellar
Hurry Up!
Wonky Circus Underground
Pecan Sands
Mt. Lava Lava
Glittertown
Windbreak Bay
Bamboozle Village
Drifting Away
Survival Fever
Introducing Wario Deluxe

Remixes I would like:

Train Stage
Devil Head
Out Of The Woods
Peaceful Village
Toy Block Tower
The Shake King
Four Seasons
Pyoro Medley
Wario De Mambo
Tomorrow Hill
Wario Dance Company
Dancin' Pirates

Fan Remixes That are cool:

Wario's Castle/Wario Battle
Wario Land Medley
Stage 1 (Virtual Boy Wario Land)
A Town In Chaos (I know this is made by Robin but still would be cool in smash)
Crescent Moon Village
Greenhorn Forest
Count Cannoli
Head Honcho Carpaccio
Terrormisu
Launchpad Labyrinth
Body Rock

 

[Durdge-o]

Gamer & Mini-game Hotel have some pretty unique gimmicks, the Mini-game Hotel especially.

I think both of them should stay as they represent the Warioware series (which is a huge part of Wario's design currently).
Wanting to have Wario represent his Wario Land appearances really seems off to me at least, especially when he is
mainly known by most people from the Warioware series and is largely based off his Japanese appearances.

Wario Castle would be damn cool yeah, but not enough people actually are aware of Wario Land because of the cirumstance
behind its releases (everything is on gameboy + gba) and the stage couldn't offer anything unique unlike the others. So I
wouldn't hope for another stage, but I can definitely see Wario's shoulder bash and Ground Pound being worked back into
the move set after what happened to the Dash Attack.

 

[RevampedSpider]

Gamer & Mini-game Hotel have some pretty unique gimmicks, the Mini-game Hotel especially.

I think both of them should stay as they represent the Warioware series (which is a huge part of Wario's design currently).
Wanting to have Wario represent his Wario Land appearances really seems off to me at least, especially when he is
mainly known by most people from the Warioware series and is largely based off his Japanese appearances.

Wario Castle would be damn cool yeah, but not enough people actually are aware of Wario Land because of the cirumstance
behind its releases (everything is on gameboy + gba) and the stage couldn't offer anything unique unlike the others. So I
wouldn't hope for another stage, but I can definitely see Wario's shoulder bash and Ground Pound being worked back into
the move set after what happened to the Dash Attack.

Except, he's not. He's based off of Sakurai's own wishes and the fat guy trope. PushDustins article is full of SO many errors and false information that it's not even funny.

 

[Durdge-o]

Except, he's not. He's based off of Sakurai's own wishes and the fat guy trope. PushDustins article is full of SO many errors and false information that it's not even funny.

I didn't mean for it to come of as saying that his Japanese appearance is the "Fat Guy Trope", that's more of an American thing anyways.
Just in general his Japanese appearance is much more jokey (you hear Wario's Japanese voice in gold? or just in general?).

To further my point, here's the Wario Land 3 commercial:


(literally opens up with taunt to get bodied true combo)


His Bike, Wario Man, Garlic Refrenses, (Garlic Farts???) all come from Warioware.
It isn't a challenge to rule out that he isn't a tough guy as much as he is over here.

Still, to keep on topic, I think adding Wario's Castle (or any other Wario Land based level for that manner) would be pretty bland.
I don't think there's much you can do with Wario Land's source material especially in the level department.
(Also who's PushDustin? Never read that article, if you could link me that'd be great.)

 

[MrLlort]

WarioWare,Inc. is a good stage and should stay. I have no strong feelings on Gamer, but Wario Land stage would be nice at this point. I would prefer Rise Beach, but If we had WL stage in Wii U version, it would likely be based off Shake It. Why?
1)Mario got stages based off latest platformers (Exept 3D World), latest Paper Mario game (Sticker Star) and latest kart games.
2)It was impossible to pull out DKC: Tropical Freeze stage (Efforts already gone into Mario Kart 8 stage), so here we have Jungle Hijinxs
3)Zelda also got some based off modern titles: Skyward Sword, Spirit Tracks and 3DS remake of Ocraina.
4)Metroid gets Pyrosphere, based off Other M.
5)Wooly World. Nuff Said
6)Pokemon gets Leagues from latest games and.. Prism Tower?
7)Arena Ferox that represents Fire Emblem: Awakening.
8)Kid Icarus obviously gets 2 stages based on Uprising.
9)Game & Wario was the latest Wario game to date. What to do? Put one of few things that actually worked.
10)Garden of Hope from Pikmin 3
11)Hell, we even got a stage from Sonic Lost World
12)This may also apply to some new universes to Smash series: Animal Crossing, Punch-Out and Xenoblade(?)
13)The reason F-Zero and EarthBound got stages from their first games (F-Zero and EarthBound Begginings obviously) because they had no new games since Brawl days, and their latest games are already represented. Same may also apply to Star Fox. As for Kirby, well.... This is another story.

It's easy to notice, that Smash tries to make stages based off modern games (with few exeptions). This is why we could either get Gamer or WL:SI stage.

His Bike, Wario Man, Garlic Refrenses, (Garlic Farts???) all come from Warioware.
It isn't a challenge to rule out that he isn't a tough guy as much as he is over here.

(Also who's PushDustin? Never read that article, if you could link me that'd be great.)

Wasn't Garlic a power-up in the first Wario Land Game? Then a treasure in Wario Land 3? Unused thing for Wario Land 4? Health in Shake It? Yeah, it was! Garlic is not a Ware thing. It just Wario being Wario. And I don't remember him farting in WarioWare! Where tf do you guys pull all this false informtion from?
As for the article:

Why Does Wario Fart?

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[warelander]

Gamer & Mini-game Hotel have some pretty unique gimmicks, the Mini-game Hotel especially.

I think both of them should stay as they represent the Warioware series (which is a huge part of Wario's design currently).
Wanting to have Wario represent his Wario Land appearances really seems off to me at least, especially when he is
mainly known by most people from the Warioware series and is largely based off his Japanese appearances.

Wario Castle would be damn cool yeah, but not enough people actually are aware of Wario Land because of the cirumstance
behind its releases (everything is on gameboy + gba) and the stage couldn't offer anything unique unlike the others. So I
wouldn't hope for another stage, but I can definitely see Wario's shoulder bash and Ground Pound being worked back into
the move set after what happened to the Dash Attack.

Most of what's wrong about the article has already been torn apart in the last ''Fixing Wario'' thread, but what I want to question is where you are getting this idea that Wario Land is so obscure.

Land 1-4 were all million sellers. VB Wario Land is generally hailed as the best thing to come out of the Virtual Boy, even among people that never played it, the Game Boy was hugely successful, so if anything being on there helps Wario Land and even World and Shake It are fondly remembered among those that played them.

Wario Land may not have been active for too long now, but there is a reason people raise such a stink over it's neglect and why Smash mods tend to favor it over Ware, because it has a devoted fanbase, just not one that's as loud as others. The series is very much what defines how a lot of people see Wario and want to see him represented.

Also saying that not a single stage or location across all 8 Wario platformers could offer anything unique is not even entirely subjective, but frankly, wrong.

 

[RevampedSpider]

I didn't mean for it to come of as saying that his Japanese appearance is the "Fat Guy Trope", that's more of an American thing anyways.
Just in general his Japanese appearance is much more jokey (you hear Wario's Japanese voice in gold? or just in general?).

To further my point, here's the Wario Land 3 commercial:


(literally opens up with taunt to get bodied true combo)


His Bike, Wario Man, Garlic Refrenses, (Garlic Farts???) all come from Warioware.
It isn't a challenge to rule out that he isn't a tough guy as much as he is over here.

Still, to keep on topic, I think adding Wario's Castle (or any other Wario Land based level for that manner) would be pretty bland.
I don't think there's much you can do with Wario Land's source material especially in the level department.
(Also who's PushDustin? Never read that article, if you could link me that'd be great.)

Wario was funny in both America and Japan though, so your rebuttal makes no sense.

And how would I have NOT seen that commercial?