Upcoming Game Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions (October 6th 2017)

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What you see is what you get, just a guy...
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Welp it's officially real and it looks pretty good.
Now while It doesn't really have the charm of the original IMO,
It still looks pretty damn good and the fact that we can play every Mario and Luigi up to Paper Jam
Thanks to this game and DS Backwards Compatibility is definitely nice to have.

What do you think of this?
 
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Really loving the visuals.

Generally speaking Superstar Saga is still my favorite game in the series, so I can certainly appreciate this, time will tell how well the new gameplay with Bowser's minions will hold up, but I welcome it, just because it means we get new material involving the likes of Fawful, as already seen in the trailer, so I'm already happy for that alone.
 
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I am very happy this exists. Can't wait to play it!

But of course, at the same time I have to be picky about the visuals. That's just my thing, sorry.
When the first rumors/leaks of this came out I was already anticipating that they would genericize the heck out of this game.
I'm sad to say that I was right.

Some changes are fine with me. Like Bowser being bigger than he used to be? Fine. His colors being different? Fine. But some of the other changes?
Not. A. Fan.

The big bug-eyed reactions? Gone.
Bowser's over the top expressions? Gone.
Peach's cartoony tear-waterfalls when she's crying? Now just a trickle.
The Bullet Bills? Now look generic.
The Troopeas? Now look like generic koopas with a sprout on their heads.
The Toads in the intro (the ones with the trumpets) aren't even wearing their little uniforms!
The Goombas look generic, the Lakipeas look like generic Lakitus with vines...
I swear to god, if they take these guys...
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...and just turn them into these generic fuckers...
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...SOME HEADS ARE GONNA ROLL! D8<
 
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Lemme guess, they are gonna take these guys:
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...and just turn them into these:
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And these...
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...into these...
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And these...
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...into these...
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Ugh, now it feels like they only remade this game cuz they could reuse a whole bunch of old sprites.
Why do I have to be such a cynic?

It's times like these when I wish they had a button that swaps between the old and new graphics like in the lucasarts adventure game remakes.

Another thing I'm not crazy about so far are some of the backgrounds. What's the opposite of subtle? Cuz that's what the backgrounds feel to me sometimes. Like when they fought Hoohooros, the clouds cast some really dark shadows onto the scene. That could've been done way more subtly.
And the ground on the stardust feels? It used to be a subtle pink/purple shade, now it's a really obtrusive crystal, which COULD have looked really good, but it's way too... overpowering.
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The enemies and characters are supposed to stand out against the background, not blend into it.
 
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Not quite. Apparently the Guard ability returns from Paper Jam.

Which is quite pointless, given no one really used it in Paper Jam either. But that means we now have these options:
  • Jump
  • Hammer
  • Bros Attack
  • Guard
  • Items
  • Run
As for my opinion... well, at least Fawful and Cackletta look as good as ever. And the bosses seem to be likewise, so the major characters are unchanged.

I am curious about one thing though. Namely, how do they plan to make Joke's End's music sound good?

 
Since nobody brought it up yet:
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Private Goomp from Bowser's Inside Story and Dream Team is back, which makes me feel more optimistic that Paper Jam's no RPG charas (aside from Starlow) approach truly was just a one time thing, like how interviews suggested.
 
Oh hey, that might mean the other Elite Trio members will return too. Neat, those guys are pretty cool.

And yeah, the no RPG characters thing does seem to have been a one off, thank god. Can't wait for the next new adventure in the series either!
 
It'll be cool to have this playing in battle scenes again.
It's really catchy and it was disappointing it only showed up in the very beginning of Paper Jam, and didn't reappear unless you went into that music room.
 
I can't say whether this or the original is better because don't have but i'm gonna buy it because


:S8'D:☆NOSTALGIA☆:S8'D: (∩ ͡° ∀ ͡° )⊃━☆ﾟ.*
 
Hm, when I first saw it I was thrown off by the visuals, but then I tried to appreciate them. And as I couldn't pin-point any clear problems, I shrugged.
But now that ShyGuyXXL has pointed out some of the issues, complete with comparisons... :/ The graphics upgrade is a big downgrade, for sure.
But hey, I'm still happy people that haven't played Superstar Saga before and never might have otherwise will now get to enjoy the great characters, story and dialogue.

Edit: Watching the trailer again reminded me of how extremely anti-climactic those swear word explosions feel in this version...
 
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Edit: Watching the trailer again reminded me of how extremely anti-climactic those swear word explosions feel in this version...
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. The sound effect of the original was very powerful CRASH BOOM BANG!!!
...but the new one is more of a rumble bumble~
It's little things like that that go a long way. Pair that with Bowser's expression that says "Ugh, this is annoying." instead of "HOLY SHIT EXPLOSIONS IN MY FACE!!! AAARGH!!!"
...and it feels underwhelming.
 
I'm also sad to see that because the Chopper Bros move has been changed, the failure animation for the first button press is now not nearly as funny as it was on the GBA:
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