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  • Ah, I love the brochure pages in Super Mario Odyssey. Much more interesting than a boring map screen, especially with details like Culmina Crater being a city wiped out by an asteroid or life potentially beginning on the Moon.
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    I do find it somewhat amusing how the Ruined Kingdom one plays up the 'mystery' side though. I mean, it's fascinating:

    "This tower once collected energy from lightning in the thunderclouds that constantly swirl here. Some say it was destroyed by repeated lightning strikes, but others note the unnatural shapes into which the tower crumbled and wonder if it fell into ruin for different reasons entirely."

    "One certainly feels a sense of intentionality in the way they're stuck straight down, as if fallen from the sky. Some see them not as swords, but rather nails or stakes. Perhaps the eyelets at the top allowed ropes or chains through to anchor something, but it's impossible to say what."

    "Some have theorized that the circular plaza atop the tower was built for a standoff of some kind."

    "The stone here has numerous large slashes cut through it, often in parallel tracks suggesting giant claws. But that can't be right—what could claw through stone?"

    But it's not exactly much of a mystery given what happens ten minutes before you arrive. Eh, maybe the in universe writer here was completely blind and somehow failed to notice the boss...
    TB100
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    The brochures in Super Mario Odyssey are definitely amazing and they fit the theme of travel perfectly as they're filled with so many little details and tidbits about each kingdom in the game. it's also a great way of having lore and worldbuilding in the series without it intruding on the main game.
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    Seriously the sheer amount of detail and effort that they put into everything is very fascinating to say the least and it only makes Super Mario Odyssey that much greater.
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    Okay, this has to be the best TV Tropes 'explanation' for a commercial ever: "Fred's longstanding grudge against Barney, for taking reasonable quantities of Fruity Pebbles and/or Cocoa Pebbles cereal, which Fred is quite possessive of, in order to survive and thrive in the Stone Age, as part of a peacefully coexisting tribal community, has not been well documented on the show, where Fred's hard working family man personality is exemplified. "
    Glowsquid
    Glowsquid
    tfw flinstones had the best lore
    Just a Wario Fan
    Just a Wario Fan
    Believe me, I've read stranger things on TV Tropes.
    Hmm, do you know what I'm wondering about Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle? How they'll translate the Phantom song into Japanese. Cause that seems like it could be.. interesting to see the Japanese equivalent of the Nintendo Treehouse take on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWv4afWknfM
    Yikes Spike
    Yikes Spike
    What if the rabbids are replaced on the Japanese version, I mean six months for a simple translation?
    Honestly, I kind of miss dial up internet. Bad connections meant people had to write things down. Hate the obsession with video and audio now.
    God, my writing skills have really deteriorated in the last few months or so. Probably because I need to focus on programming, writing and game design at the same time, and it's really damn hard to do so.
    CM30
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    It also doesn't help that search engines like Google and social media sites like Twitter have basically made putting 'effort' into your writing a risky strategy. Everyone just rewards quantity over quality, and it seems success is linked more to how quickly you can get something out rather than how well you explain it.
    Have now completed Odyssey 100%. The rewards are interesting, but a tad underwhelming.
    Koopaul
    Koopaul
    It about the journey I suppose.
    CM30
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    Apparently the Toad Houses in SMB 3 are actually just a lie. You don't get a choice of 3 random items, it only chooses the item once you open a box. So yeah, your prize would have been identical regardless of the box chosen.
    The 3rd Wario Brother
    The 3rd Wario Brother
    That kinda pisses me off, Atleast 3D Land is honest with its one present box. 3 chests however are just playing with my emotions.
    Wow, Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon contain paleontological references in the Tyrantrum family Pokedex entries. Neat.
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    Very mild spoilers, but:

    Tyrantrum: Complete restoration is impossible, allowing room for theories that its entire body was once covered in a feather-like coat.

    Seems to reference theories that T Rexes (and other dinosaurs) may have had feathers.
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    Magma
    Magma
    A lot of Pokedex entries are quite interesting honestly.
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    Metal
    Metal
    ahhhhhhhgg im a dinosaur, some one be diggin' up my bones.
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    Finally, does anyone else sometimes wonder what it'd be like if Nintendo Power still existed and was reviewing/talking about modern Nintendo games? Okay, I'm from the UK so it'd be more 'Official Nintendo Magazine' for me, but still. Imagine their thoughts on Breath of the Wild, Pokemon Sun and Moon/their sequels, Mario Odyssey, etc. It'd be really interesting.
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    They will probably talk about how LA Nora being on the switch is a revolution for gaming itself. lol
    Hmm, do you think the Chargin' Chuck enemies were meant to be in more kingdoms in Odyssey? I find it odd that they're mentioned on the map near the Metro Kingdom, yet only appear much later in the game.
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    Then again, I think they were removed from the map at one point, so yeah, I guess they were meant to show up in New Donk City somewhere.
    BooDestroyer
    BooDestroyer
    One will also appear in a moon rock trial in the Ruined Kingdom.
    BooDestroyer
    BooDestroyer
    Glydon was written near the Cascade Kingdom, but doesn't appear there at all.
    On another note, the mini games in Odyssey are obnoxious. I'm sorry, but I miss Mario 64 and Sunshine where there were no mini games. Just pure platforming and exploration.
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    Eh? Mini Games are so-so.
    wariolandgoldpiramid
    wariolandgoldpiramid
    but you can easily cheese them. The Volleyball minigame is so broken with 2 player mode.
    CM30
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    Yeah, just beat it with 2 player mode just now. Ridiculous how it goes from being a right pain to dead simple the minute you just use Cappy for the whole thing instead of Mario. Still, just a few more missions to go now.
    I have to say, it'd be hilarious to go back in time and describe Super Mario Odyssey to someone from the Wii/Wii U era. I mean, the game must sound like a piece of ridiculous fan fiction if you haven't played it...
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    Seriously, imagine being a Nintendo fan on a forum being told the next Mario platformer has:

    A new set of Koopaling like villains who are Rabbids
    Mario's hat being a living creature called Cappy
    The ability for Mario to throw his hat at enemies to capture and control them
    Kingdoms loosely based on real world areas
    Including a New York City area with realistic humans
    Pauline returns
    There's a theme tune with vocals that's sung by Pauline
    Bowser is trying to marry Peach
    Mario can use various costumes
    And a kingdom in the game looks like something out of Dark Souls

    People would think you were a delusional moron. Face it, if you read that on 4chan, you'd think the author was full of crap and that it could never happen.

    But it did, and it's an amazing game. Funny world eh?
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    Similarly...

    Describing Team Rainbow Rocket in Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon would sound ridiculous back when the game was first announced. Giovanni bringing back Team Rocket with help from Archie, Maxie, Cyrus, Ghetsis and Lysandre? Eh, that'd never happen.

    Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces too. Both would sound insane to someone who hadn't heard of them.

    As would Zelda Breath of the Wild to a GameCube era Zelda fan.

    And as for Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle? Yeah, even I was skeptical of that one. A Nintendo fan from a few generations ago would think you'd escaped from the funny farm. Especially if you tried to describe this song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWv4afWknfM

    Again, how things have changed.
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    Nitwit
    Nitwit
    Indeed it is.
    On a positive note, you know one reason I really like Odyssey? Because it realises that 3D Mario games should work differently from 2D ones. Prior 3D Mario titles felt like they were trying to recreate New Super Mario Bros style gameplay in 3D and didn't really work as a result. Odyssey is Nintendo realising that this was the wrong route to go and embracing the open world experience that 3D games can do so well.
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    You can see the same thing in reverse too. Trying to put 3D Mario gameplay into 2D generally works about as badly as 2D Mario gameplay in 3D does. It can be done in some cases (like with the fan game Super Mario 63), but even then the new 'demake' is very different from the original in level design and really only works because of that.
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    As someone who's played all the 3D Mario platformers, Zelda games and other such titles in general, I'm getting really sick of all the mini games now.
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    It feels like developers don't realise that a game can be entirely made of a single gameplay style and work fine.
    God, I miss the days before social media. People seem so much humble on forums, and more interested in helping people than personal fame.
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    Magma
    Magma
    It's the self advertising-age!
    Robin
    Robin
    Man you tell me... Even other creators suffer from that, since everyone seems of produce stuff, there's almost no public left! And this is also why forums aren't what they used to.
    Just a Wario Fan
    Just a Wario Fan
    To be honest, I dislike most modern social media.
    As someone's who just beat the Darker Side of the Moon in Odyssey, I think it's not so much 'super hard' as it is ridiculously long. 14 sections for a Grandmaster Galaxy/Perfect Run setup is stupid.
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    Honestly, it's really damn hard to discuss anything about Odyssey's endgame/postgame without spoilers. And no, Wario Forums doesn't have much in the way of spoiler rules, nor is it intended to.
    Robin
    Robin
    I'm not complaining, just saying, I kinds guessed we'd end up in the moon anyway. You just confirmed it.
    Magma
    Magma
    This is probably the first time I've seen something outright said to be permissible on this site aside from like emulation stuff.
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